Bear Bait I am glad to see you may have come to your senses and decide VV could play. On a different thread you talked about the strength of some teams like CAC and Lonoke and they would be quality wins for a NE team. Well VV beat Lonoke 10-0 and CAC 9-1. You also said NE AR needed to realize there was better baseball in the state. Well in 4A the NE dominated this year, 3 out of the 4 teams in the semis were from the NE. The strength of the VV team this year was the fact anyone could step up. Burgi is a good player as is NInemire at 3rd. You know who he is because you really like him on a different thread. Congraulations to VV and Rivercrest on great years. The game was played right two teams with respect for each other that got after it.

Oh you can bet that I will give credit when a team deserves it, and VV does for sure. The way you are taking it is that I said NE couldn't play. What I said was that they aren't getting the real picture if they don't play teams outside NE. I am not saying that Burgi xxxxx, what I am saying is that I expected to see this kid literally kill ever pitcher he faced and never allow a stolen base which definitely wasn't even close to what happened on Sat. If I mentioned Lonoke, it was a mistake because I haven't seen them play all year just heard from others about them. CAC has a pitcher that is going D1, didn't pitch against VV, but that is a coaching mistake there. It is easy to see that VV is definitely benefiting from the tons of kids who have flooded in to take VV from an 1A school in 1990 to a 4A school in 2000's. Coach Ninemire and his son included. No that is not directed at saying they are recruiting.

But we are on the 3A page here, so I will say that if Corning and Marmaduke were the best that NE had to offer up in baseball this year and in years to come, that area may be in for a long dry spell. HA took out 3 teams from the regionals to the state finals that could have beaten Marmaduke. Other than the #4 hitter, they literally looked confused at the plate all day like they had never seen a real pitcher.

You should have watched the VV-CAC game. Cac did throw their number 1 pitcher. they saved him against Gravette on Friday and pitched him against VV.

I do not know who CAC #1 is for sure, but the starting and losing pitcher in the CAC-VV game was Biggerstaff. I also noticed he was All-State. Also the CAC coach was very complimentary of VV in the Jonesboro Sun and said they were better than any team they had played the entire year.

Again, until VV played someone from central AR they really couldn't be called the best team in AR. I loved watching them play in the finals! They executed things so well, fundamentals were on point, bats were ok, but they couldn't be called the best team in the state until they played someone outside of NEA. That was my point from the start, not that CAC is better than them and that they couldn't ever beat them again, or anything like that. CAC was who controlled central AR, VV controlled the NE, so their seasons wouldn't have been complete without playing each other at some point.
I am almost certain that your replies could have been posted on the 4A State post instead since I have talked from the beginning of the season about VV and CAC on that post. This is 3A's property right here. This is all about chatting up Harding Academy and the great team that they had. This is also about Marmaduke and Corning and the success that they had this season. VV chatter belongs on 4A.
Yes, I know I messed up and mentioned them in my overview of the state finals games that took place on Sat. and that is what got all of this started. So lets jump over to 4A if we need to keep talking VV hardball.

Maybe........But they had to play a team from NEA to win the championship!

no way! but to get there they answered the question of whether or not they could handle the best from outside the NEA. they won, and in the finals only made it completely obvious that they were the best 4A team in the state.

now take a trip over to the 4A post and chat it up about VV all ya want.

How bout them 3A Champion Wildcats!

Your the one that keeps talking about them.......And they didn't have to go outside NEA because Nea was the best in 4A

P.S. Thanks for letting me know where I could "chat it up"

really, and had they never played a state tourn. this year who would have known that? let's see...
obviously pride would have kept people saying that NEA was, but if sports were based off of pride and not evidence then there might have been a completely different finals.
I kept hearing all season how great Marmaduke was and Corning, but it took the NEAR coverage area and not the NEA to prove differently. But before the State tourn. you wouldn't have ever known who was the real deal. After sitting down at a legion practice Thur night, the MVP and a couple of his other teammates said that the only game they thought, there is a huge chance we might lose was the Gurdon game. I never heard talk all year about those guys from anyone.

P.S. anyone with a pic of the longhorns as their avatar needs a lot of guidance, so I am glad that I could lend some assistance.

V.V. lost 2 games this year, one to Marion and one to the team they played in the state championship, Rivercrest. The only people that didn't know they had a chance are the ones that had thier head stuck up a Bears butt!!


P.S. Anyone that changes the argument to an avatar obviously had no argument to begin with.

well, since this arguement is over here.....let me chime in.

I am a little confused (as usual), but bearbait, are you saying V V was not
the best team in 4A? B/C I just saw the ring all the boys are fixing to
be wearing that says different......and its NICE

Hey, then why even have a State tourn. There seems to be a consensus on here that NEA is the best at every sport all year round every year. There is no reason to ever play a team from anywhere else. I spent 85% of my life smack dab in the middle of J'town listening to every person talk it and it still hasn't changed. Pride is awesome to have, but reality is that there has to be a State tourn so that people from ALL OVER the REST of the State can be played. I would love to see a great school like Riverside win everything every year, but unfortunately there is a world outside of NE. You seem to be living in the Truman show Rt.64. CAC wasn't even the best team in their Regional, but was from central AR. I kept hearing about all these teams from NE and how good they were, so I wanted to see them play someone outside of NE. Makes since. Sorta like when Springdale was so dominate at football they kept playing teams from every where in the country because they wanted to know IF they were the best. VV, out of every team in NE, came out on top.

bbdad...read from start to finish...i have said over and over that VV was the best team. What got all this started was in the first week of the entire season people were chatting up VV, so I said I would love to see them play someone from central AR instead of just NE. Mentioning that there are teams outside of NEA is offensive to some. Everyone immediately assumed that this meant that VV was not good enough to handle CAC(whom I mentioned as being pretty good).
I have watched Ninemire since he was in 4th grade. He has dominated the game even way back then, so it's not like I didn' think they had the athletes to be the best.
You have got to play a STATE TOURN to prove that though.

P.S. your argument is made up off of nothing but crap so far since you can't seem to get out of this, no teams outside of the NEA, type mindset. According to your evidence we don't even need a state tourn anymore. Or maybe that is just for 4A since all the other NE teams didn't fair so well in 7,6,5,3,2,1 A.

I loved the Trumann show...But that has nothing to do with the best two teams in the state, in 4A and they were V.V and Rivercrest! End of story, they played in the state championship not CAC, that is undisputable.



PS. I never mentioned any other NEA team in any other classification, though I was surprised with Marmaduke and disapointred in Nettleton. Maybe you should wipe the CRAP out of your eyes so you can see what you are reading.

your right you didn't mention those teams and that is what this post is all about, 3A teams.

Just explain to me how on earth you would have know that NE had the best 2 teams in baseball in their respected division if they had never played anyone from anywhere outside of NE. That has been my point from the very beginning of the season. You are the one with crap in your eyes if you think that those teams were the outright best without ever playing anyone else to prove that. From the start I said that I would love to see VV play a team from central AR since everyone in NE kept talking about how good they were. This would have given me the opportunity to see them in person long before the State tourn, and it would also have given the fans that were chatting them up on here the proof to back up the statements they were making. THAT WAS IN THE 1st WEEK OF THE SEASON! You are talking to me now after they have played all the way through the season. All I wanted to see was them play a wider range of teams to get the chance to see them. They did, they dominated, and they walk away the outright champs. I haven't disputed them since seeing them. Not one single time. But you keep arguing like I am saying they aren't the best. I saw them, they are, and like bbdad said, they have the rings to prove it.
Now what the crap is your point? Is there shame in wanting to see teams from outside each others area compete against each other?

Well Marmaduke is 3A, Nettleton is 5A.

You seem to think that central Ar. has better baseball. Those teams had their chance and couldn't make the cut. Why you want to keep talking about it is beyond me. The only reason I jumped in this thread is because YOU keep talking about it.

V.V. was the best team in 4A this year. I don't have another point. Do you?