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oldtimer- 02-04-2007
i agree with the divisions and stuff, but. these comp. are judged on past performances. dont care what you say. to many times squads stick all their stunts and dance and still lose to a squad who drop a stunt. dont say it doesn't happen because i've seen it. for instance, in hot springs a few years ago when it snowed. one area squad blew the crowd away. everyone in the crowd from other places were talking about how they won hands down. every other squad dropped somebody. and one of the squads that dropped a stunt won. these kids were devastated. people from other towns booed the judges. this is just one instance that it happened. look at the jr high this weekend, there were more than three teams in that division that didnt mess up. but a squad that had 1 group that didnt go up until half way through the comp. still placed. explain that. that is crap. ive seen this happen a bunch at these things. im not picking on this any particular squad. i know these kids work extremely hard and love what they do. im saying the judging is not done fairly.

Grim- 02-04-2007
It was disappointing to see that some of the NE AR teams didn't even make the trip. mad.gif

oldtimer- 02-04-2007
exactly my point. i think lot of the judging is politics

cheergal13- 02-04-2007
[QUOTE]The Manila Junior stunt group also brought home a Grand Championship showing off many skills and transitions! I must say I am extremely pround of Alyssa Tate for becoming such a skilled flyer! She definitely shows where her stunt roots come from! Congratulations to this high flying Junior High Group!


Thank you James!! Yeah you know where I get those awesome skills from..only the best!!! It was really fun and thanks for the congratulations...and I hope to be seeing you and the rest of the ACC staff soon!!! We had a lot of fun getting to compete..we weren't going to get to come because of the weather..but everything worked out! I was happy to be on the competition floor again, and winning was even better! We were extremely happy to win over the squads that have always beat us in the past...I must say that I could never have been such a good flyer without my awesome bases and backspots, and the great coaching I have recieved from only the best!

gocardsgo- 02-04-2007
ACC Coach James left out

Brannah Barrett the 2A ACCA Scholarship Winner
She is also from this area!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

mustang- 02-04-2007
CONGRATS!!!!!!! to both BIC squads.great job all your hard work paid off.
On the floor & in the class room.
We are proud of all of you.
The Mustang Family

Coach James - ACC- 02-04-2007
QUOTE (frequentflyer06 @ Feb 4 2007, 12:23 PM)
I was kind of surprised at a few of the results yesterday. Most of them were typical, who you would expect...but there were a few surprises. For example, Stuttgart got Grand Champion (I think) against Benton (Jr. High)...to the best of my knowledge, both of these teams were in the same category for Grand awards. Seriously...Benton had like 6 fulls and double downs in stunts and girls from Stuttgart were falling on their faces in standing handsprings. It was complete tragic-ness in comparison with Benton. Maybe they were showing some more spirit or something...only rationale I can think of. Then Bryant vs. Lakeside for Large Co-Ed 4A to 7A...so Lakeside had a great kick double basket (I know the girl)...Bryant was cleaner. Other than that...there was relatively no competition...you could pick the winner easily. On another note...scholarships this year? Blew my mind. I mean, there were girls with like 3.6 GPAs getting the high scholarships...I'm pretty sure that last year when me and the 2 Nashville girls got scholarships, we all had a 4 point or above. They even said that there were many applicants. You can't tell me that more of the girls that didn't win didn't have a higher gpa. This probably doesn't matter...but just seems a bit strange. Way to go NEAR...representing pretty well for the most part. Took home a few titles...not too shabby. I'm waiting for the day that the NEAR teams go co-ed and start throwing elite skills...and actually compete against the bigger schools. That would be awesome. Will it ever happen? Also...props to my man Jake Brumley from Benton-Harmony Grove...he so dominated coed stunts without even trying...the guy can throw full-ups, double downs, and rewinds without even trying. Crazy ridiculous. He's a junior, and we are already hardcore recruiting him for UCA. He's showing off that CCU pride. Well, those are my opinions from state...but I am kind of a hard critic as well...still not bad representation from NEAR at all.

Actually, no they arent in the same division. Benton was Junior High and they won the Grand Championship for their Junior High Division.

Stuttgart won Grand in their division as a senior high squad.

I believe that this is correct. I have to double check. Grim has the results on him...


frequentflyer06- 02-04-2007
Thanks so much James for clearing that up! I was getting really worried!! I was going "Oh my word...where has this judging come to!" That makes me feel a lot better!! I'm glad I can always count on my coaches to know their stuff! ACC Pride!!! Great to see you!!

Coach James - ACC- 02-05-2007
QUOTE (frequentflyer06 @ Feb 4 2007, 12:23 PM)
I was kind of surprised at a few of the results yesterday. Most of them were typical, who you would expect...but there were a few surprises. For example, Stuttgart got Grand Champion (I think) against Benton (Jr. High)...to the best of my knowledge, both of these teams were in the same category for Grand awards. Seriously...Benton had like 6 fulls and double downs in stunts and girls from Stuttgart were falling on their faces in standing handsprings. It was complete tragic-ness in comparison with Benton. Maybe they were showing some more spirit or something...only rationale I can think of. Then Bryant vs. Lakeside for Large Co-Ed 4A to 7A...so Lakeside had a great kick double basket (I know the girl)...Bryant was cleaner. Other than that...there was relatively no competition...you could pick the winner easily. On another note...scholarships this year? Blew my mind. I mean, there were girls with like 3.6 GPAs getting the high scholarships...I'm pretty sure that last year when me and the 2 Nashville girls got scholarships, we all had a 4 point or above. They even said that there were many applicants. You can't tell me that more of the girls that didn't win didn't have a higher gpa. This probably doesn't matter...but just seems a bit strange. Way to go NEAR...representing pretty well for the most part. Took home a few titles...not too shabby. I'm waiting for the day that the NEAR teams go co-ed and start throwing elite skills...and actually compete against the bigger schools. That would be awesome. Will it ever happen? Also...props to my man Jake Brumley from Benton-Harmony Grove...he so dominated coed stunts without even trying...the guy can throw full-ups, double downs, and rewinds without even trying. Crazy ridiculous. He's a junior, and we are already hardcore recruiting him for UCA. He's showing off that CCU pride. Well, those are my opinions from state...but I am kind of a hard critic as well...still not bad representation from NEAR at all.

The scholarships arent based on GPA alone. They are based on many other factors but I know you know that. They did award the GPA team awards and the group GPA was usually around 3.6 to 3.8 etc.

I agree that a lot of the things go wrong at ACCA competitons. One thing that many people are responding to on these threads that many don't understand are the huge deduction penalties that ACCA gives during these competitions. You can have 5 Scorpion Double Downs and if the grips are wrong on all 5 of them, you will lose 20 points per stunt. Some of the rules that can ruin a great performance are stepping off the floor, stepping on signs, hair in the face, etc. I have seen some truely outstanding performances (Valley View Senior High last year losing Grand Championship because a spotter didnt have her hands up properly) and end up losing because of minor rules violations etc.

It's all in the eye of the beholder and the eye of the technical judges. Maybe one day ACCA will ask me how to run a competition smile.gif


tailgator- 02-05-2007
we're so proud of bay!!!
to think it has taken us 3 hard yrs. to be able to come home with a trophy. before that, bay didn't have much of a squad. rah, rah and thats it. i'm proud of this team for over comming all the crap that the school throws at them. we did it all on our own time, and they over came being ridiculed about our best cheer guy. he stuck with us and had the best spirit out there. i guess we'll be back to girls only next year but we will be back!!!! brandon we'll miss you.....stevo your more than welcomed back???

CoachKP- 02-06-2007
QUOTE (oldtimer @ Feb 4 2007, 11:39 AM)
i agree with the divisions and stuff, but. these comp. are judged on past performances. dont care what you say. to many times squads stick all their stunts and dance and still lose to a squad who drop a stunt. dont say it doesn't happen because i've seen it. for instance, in hot springs a few years ago when it snowed. one area squad blew the crowd away. everyone in the crowd from other places were talking about how they won hands down. every other squad dropped somebody. and one of the squads that dropped a stunt won. these kids were devastated. people from other towns booed the judges. this is just one instance that it happened. look at the jr high this weekend, there were more than three teams in that division that didnt mess up. but a squad that had 1 group that didnt go up until half way through the comp. still placed. explain that. that is crap. ive seen this happen a bunch at these things. im not picking on this any particular squad. i know these kids work extremely hard and love what they do. im saying the judging is not done fairly.

Which division is this because I didnt see in any division where 3 teams didnt mess up? 0c4fae0e.gif Help me out by filling in which squads you are talking about and maybe we can clear up or help you understand why that squad got what they got. I feel all the squads got what they deserve due to their performance except one squad and im still not quite sure what happened with that. Obviously the judges werent watching that routine very well or they werent watching the other routines that went against them. This was in the junior high division by the way...

oldtimer- 02-07-2007
theres no need to name names. these kids are proud of their accomplishments. theres no need in dragging this through the mud. my point is, these comp. are purely personal opinion. i feel sorry for these girls who work so hard and end up disappointed when they dont understand why they didn't win. especially when other squads drop people and still win. sad to say, i know there isnt a better way to judge this stuff

Grim- 02-07-2007
QUOTE (oldtimer @ Feb 7 2007, 01:04 AM)
theres no need to name names. these kids are proud of their accomplishments. theres no need in dragging this through the mud. my point is, these comp. are purely personal opinion. i feel sorry for these girls who work so hard and end up disappointed when they dont understand why they didn't win. especially when other squads drop people and still win. sad to say, i know there isnt a better way to judge this stuff

I am gonna have to disagree with you. Sure they are "personal opinion", but they are personal expert opinion. These judges have decades of combined experience in the sport. Perhaps even hundreds of years of combined experience. They aren't going to put losers on the winner's platform. They know what they are doing. You are biased. They are not. You need to learn to live with the results and move on.

oldtimer- 02-07-2007
they did and they have. thats my opinion. you have yours.

Grim- 02-07-2007
QUOTE (oldtimer @ Feb 7 2007, 03:58 AM)
they did and they have. thats my opinion. you have yours.

Very true. Except that of all three of the opinions, yours, mine & the judges, yours is the only one that is biased.

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