Basketball Rules

QUOTE (deeznutz1963 @ December 23, 2007 09:26 pm)

OK, my turn.... VIOLATION!

New play:

Along the same lines, ball is about to go out of bounds. Player A goes airborne, secures possession of the ball, calls timeout, and then lands out of bounds. Is this a legal play in Federation? Is the legal play in NCAA?

Explain why it is a violation or not, so everyone will know what you and I know. Please!!!!!!!!!!

can he not take possession once he has both feet in bounds ?

If Player A is the last to touch the ball inbounds and he goes out of bounds, the ball must be touched by another player before Player A touches the ball.

Just curious about something I saw last night and don't recall ever seeing before. The coach sent a player to check back in. after he was on the floor but before play started the score keeper signaled that the player had 5 fouls and had already fouled out. It didn't matter at all in this game and nothing was called, but just curious if there should have been a technical?

QUOTE (observer12 @ December 27, 2007 05:49 pm)

Just curious about something I saw last night and don't recall ever seeing before. The coach sent a player to check back in. after he was on the floor but before play started the score keeper signaled that the player had 5 fouls and had already fouled out. It didn't matter at all in this game and nothing was called, but just curious if there should have been a technical?

Participation is key here. Since the player was not on the floor while the ball was in play there should be no violation. A player being in the game after 5th foul during a live ball should never happen. If it does you have in effect at least 5 people not doing their job keeping up with things. #1 Team A coach #2 Team B coach #3 official score keeper at table. #4 Team A bench stat person and #5 Team B stat person. . In that case yes it would be a technical. As always the refs would be blamed but the last thing in the world refs should worry about is keeping up with each players foul count. That is why we have an official scorer at the table.

QUOTE (deeznutz1963 @ December 24, 2007 07:21 pm)

If Player A is the last to touch the ball inbounds and he goes out of bounds, the ball must be touched by another player before Player A touches the ball.

I knew that. (smh)

I've got a question for you referees. Player for Team A gets a defensive rebound and is standing with Player from team B behind him, Player for Team B grabs player for team A from behind, wraping his arms around him also touching the ball with one hand. Is this a foul or jump ball?

You saw that in last nights Nettleton/Westside game too. The baseline official called a jump ball. The player A did not turn towards player B which would have created a tie ball, rather player B had to wrap around player A. What's the difference between that action and an on the back/over the back call?

QUOTE (basketballdad @ December 18, 2007 09:46 pm)

QUOTE (Ball in gap @ December 18, 2007 05:43 pm)

QUOTE (hoopswatcher @ December 18, 2007 03:04 pm)

QUOTE (deeznutz1963 @ December 17, 2007 11:07 pm)

Let's start something new and productive. From time-to-time, a situation will be posted. You make the call. Officials, try to refrain from answering too quick!

Situation: Team A is awarded and alternating-posession (AP) throw-in. A1 lobs the throw-in pass toward A2 who is breaking to the basket. The throw-in pass is too high and lodges between the ring and the backboard.

What is your ruling and what are you going to do about the AP arrow?

I waited as long as I could not to answer but I can't wait any longer.
There are two rules that come into play. 1) concerning lodged ball and 2) loss of AP arrow.

Rule 9.2.8 throw in violation

It is a violation on team A for lodging the throw in pass. Teeam B gets the ball at the same throw in spot.

Rule6.4.5 Loss of arrow

Since team A violated during an AP then they lose the arrow and it becomes Team B's arrow on the next alternating Poss. In effect team A loses 2 AP because they violated their own.

I thought this was answered earlier by ford dealer.

Team b could also get the ball two times on possession if team won the tip, but tip the ball out of bounds. Team B's ball plus arrow.

Gotta bring this back up again, but this exact thing happen last night. Westside vs. Nett. Westside tip the ball out of bounds......Nett got the ball plus the arrow. I didnt argue the correction from the earlier post.

QUOTE (basketballdad @ December 30, 2007 04:26 pm)

Gotta bring this back up again, but this exact thing happen last night. Westside vs. Nett. Westside tip the ball out of bounds......Nett got the ball plus the arrow. I didnt argue the correction from the earlier post.

If it happend that way then it was incorrect. If Nett got the ball, then West should have had the arrow.

QUOTE (neafbfan @ December 30, 2007 01:51 pm)

You saw that in last nights Nettleton/Westside game too. The baseline official called a jump ball. The player A did not turn towards player B which would have created a tie ball, rather player B had to wrap around player A. What's the difference between that action and an on the back/over the back call?

Should have been a foul. If a player has to wrap his/her arms AROUND another player to tie the ball up, it's hard to believe that no contact was made with the player in possession of the ball.

ok....... what happens if right after the tipoff without anyone getting possession there is a jump ball

QUOTE (hogsfan 4life @ December 31, 2007 04:12 am)

ok....... what happens if right after the tipoff without anyone getting possession there is a jump ball

You jump it again. This time with the two who tied it up. This happened twice in a row yesterday in a girls game (of course) at Mtn Home.

QUOTE (deeznutz1963 @ December 30, 2007 09:51 pm)

QUOTE (neafbfan @ December 30, 2007 01:51 pm)

You saw that in last nights Nettleton/Westside game too. The baseline official called a jump ball. The player A did not turn towards player B which would have created a tie ball, rather player B had to wrap around player A. What's the difference between that action and an on the back/over the back call?

Should have been a foul. If a player has to wrap his/her arms AROUND another player to tie the ball up, it's hard to believe that no contact was made with the player in possession of the ball.

Contact does not constitute a foul. The rule book says that contact must impede the normal play. As bad as it sounds a player could reach around a player without it being a foul. Would not want to be the person that makes the call though.

NEW SITUATION

Team A asst coach is hit with a technical foul. Is this tchnical foul charged directly to the head coach? Can the head coach stand up and coach the rest of the game or is the "seatbelt rule" in effect?

Look forward to your answers.